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	<title>Comments on: The wrong way to investigate employee theft</title>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Security cameras can be useful for this purpose, but you can&#039;t monitor an employee&#039;s work area...   We had a few problems with theft, and worked with HR to validate what the cameras were recording.

Another aspect of this type of problem that&#039;s very hard to digest is that it&#039;s often easier to dismiss the employee rather than terminate them with cause or proceed with a criminal investigation.  In my experience, both Legal and HR advise dismissal because you have to have a rock-solid case in order to terminate with cause for theft.  Additionally, HR advised that the forensic investigation required to obtain &quot;rock solid&quot; evidence would be too disruptive to the business.

The SECOND time I had to deal with this type of situation, I didn&#039;t bother investigating.  I stuck cameras up in the hallway -- not recording, not connected to anything.  Three days later, I &quot;casually mentioned&quot; to all of the admins that we&#039;ve had cameras in place for 3 days, and we managed to capture a picture of the thief in action, and that we got a really good picture of his face.  I told them HR is &quot;working on an airtight approach&quot; and that the thief’s termination and a subsequent criminal investigation was pending.  

A day later, the thief resigned -- validated by the fact that no further thefts occurred.

I realize that I&#039;m stereotyping the admins as gossips -- in this case, the admins happened to be adept at inappropriately sharing information, but there is always a &quot;known gossip&quot; in the office who can inadvertently do your dirty work for you.  Just to drive the point home, and virtually ensure they would pass the information along, I looked around and then whispered “don’t tell anyone, but….”.

Rumors can often be more valuable than proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Security cameras can be useful for this purpose, but you can&#8217;t monitor an employee&#8217;s work area&#8230;   We had a few problems with theft, and worked with HR to validate what the cameras were recording.</p>
<p>Another aspect of this type of problem that&#8217;s very hard to digest is that it&#8217;s often easier to dismiss the employee rather than terminate them with cause or proceed with a criminal investigation.  In my experience, both Legal and HR advise dismissal because you have to have a rock-solid case in order to terminate with cause for theft.  Additionally, HR advised that the forensic investigation required to obtain &#8220;rock solid&#8221; evidence would be too disruptive to the business.</p>
<p>The SECOND time I had to deal with this type of situation, I didn&#8217;t bother investigating.  I stuck cameras up in the hallway &#8212; not recording, not connected to anything.  Three days later, I &#8220;casually mentioned&#8221; to all of the admins that we&#8217;ve had cameras in place for 3 days, and we managed to capture a picture of the thief in action, and that we got a really good picture of his face.  I told them HR is &#8220;working on an airtight approach&#8221; and that the thief’s termination and a subsequent criminal investigation was pending.  </p>
<p>A day later, the thief resigned &#8212; validated by the fact that no further thefts occurred.</p>
<p>I realize that I&#8217;m stereotyping the admins as gossips &#8212; in this case, the admins happened to be adept at inappropriately sharing information, but there is always a &#8220;known gossip&#8221; in the office who can inadvertently do your dirty work for you.  Just to drive the point home, and virtually ensure they would pass the information along, I looked around and then whispered “don’t tell anyone, but….”.</p>
<p>Rumors can often be more valuable than proof.</p>
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		<title>By: suzy q</title>
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		<dc:creator>suzy q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve taken 3 lie detector tests, lied during them all and passed them all.  Even when my restaurant was robbed and the police thought it was an inside job I recommended to the staff that they don’t take one.  They can’t be trusted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve taken 3 lie detector tests, lied during them all and passed them all.  Even when my restaurant was robbed and the police thought it was an inside job I recommended to the staff that they don’t take one.  They can’t be trusted.</p>
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